My friend Tolkienista and I just had an interesting conversation about slash and sexuality and whether or not it’s okay for slash authors (many of whom, if not all, are white cisfemale authors writing about cismen having sex with other cismen.)
I’m a white cisfemale bisexual woman living in large city, for the sake of this conversation. Tolkienista’s a friend of mine from grad school, and also a white gay cisgender man.
Tolkienista’s blog can be found here. http://tolkienista.wordpress.com/
On the Editing: I have marked the majority of my edits with [content changed brackets] to indicate changes. Places where […] is marked indicate spots were non-relevant or confusing bits of conversation happened- mostly going, “Oh, yeah, right, I see what you mean” etc etc, and I have removed them for the sake of flow. Other unmarked corrections for grammar and spelling occurred.
Tuesday, April 2, 2013
Tolkienista
I am wondering, for a moment, about slash. Because I just read a long tumblr thing from a woman who was sort of blistering about the HRC logos and then talks about being into writing slash.
Kitewithfish
Which she should be- [HRC] are kind of problematic in their complete domination of the discussion about gay rights
Tolkienista
No, I get that
[…]
Tolkienista
And I am just suddenly wondering about the ethical dimension of imagining and writing about the sexual experience of someone who is not "your people," in a very narrowly defined sense of the term.
Also, I think people are wrong when they say that the HRC dominates discussion of gay rights. I actually think that gay rights began to move forward a bit in the past five years as the HRC's rights-centric, steady-as-she-goes approach stopped being as popular among rank-and-file
But they are right when they say that the HRC is awful
so I consider it a wash.
Kitewithfish
I think there's something to be said for the problems of slash being an extension of patriarchal systems of thought
In that most of the authors are women, righting about sexual experiences in which there are no women.
And most of them DON'T go anywhere NEAR the gay issues properly
( Keep reading! )
I’m a white cisfemale bisexual woman living in large city, for the sake of this conversation. Tolkienista’s a friend of mine from grad school, and also a white gay cisgender man.
Tolkienista’s blog can be found here. http://tolkienista.wordpress.com/
On the Editing: I have marked the majority of my edits with [content changed brackets] to indicate changes. Places where […] is marked indicate spots were non-relevant or confusing bits of conversation happened- mostly going, “Oh, yeah, right, I see what you mean” etc etc, and I have removed them for the sake of flow. Other unmarked corrections for grammar and spelling occurred.
Tuesday, April 2, 2013
Tolkienista
I am wondering, for a moment, about slash. Because I just read a long tumblr thing from a woman who was sort of blistering about the HRC logos and then talks about being into writing slash.
Kitewithfish
Which she should be- [HRC] are kind of problematic in their complete domination of the discussion about gay rights
Tolkienista
No, I get that
[…]
Tolkienista
And I am just suddenly wondering about the ethical dimension of imagining and writing about the sexual experience of someone who is not "your people," in a very narrowly defined sense of the term.
Also, I think people are wrong when they say that the HRC dominates discussion of gay rights. I actually think that gay rights began to move forward a bit in the past five years as the HRC's rights-centric, steady-as-she-goes approach stopped being as popular among rank-and-file
But they are right when they say that the HRC is awful
so I consider it a wash.
Kitewithfish
I think there's something to be said for the problems of slash being an extension of patriarchal systems of thought
In that most of the authors are women, righting about sexual experiences in which there are no women.
And most of them DON'T go anywhere NEAR the gay issues properly
( Keep reading! )