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kitewithfish ([personal profile] kitewithfish) wrote2019-04-19 10:46 pm
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Magicians 413 - no spoilers

but how fucking dare you 

Edit: spoilers in the comments.
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SPOILERS

[personal profile] kitewithfish 2019-04-20 03:00 am (UTC)(link)
SO.

I think I gave Quentin Coldwater's character a shitty read, until this episode and the fan reactions to it. Particularly this one https://medium.com/@greywash/on-fannishness-privilege-and-a-whole-other-grab-bag-of-entitled-millennial-bullshit-81ea4148a6d0

I thought of him as a whiney white dude, and I just didn't *get* it and I have spent some immediately after seeing this talking to a friend who is bi and has been suicidal and has been in a mental hospital for it and who loved Q way more than I did and whose preference for Q I found a perplexing blindspot in her otherwise good taste, but after reading this essay about Q's treatment in 413, I think I should honestly apologize, because I fucking did not see it, and failed, and that is on me.
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Re: SPOILERS

[personal profile] schneefink 2019-04-20 08:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Eh, considering it looks like the showrunners didn't see or get it either...
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Re: SPOILERS

[personal profile] kitewithfish 2019-04-22 02:13 pm (UTC)(link)
I *know*, but the thing is, I was catching up with this season with my friend who has depression and who adored Quentin as a character? so, while the show runners definitely fucked up, I had a Depression Interpreter watching a lot of the episodes with me, and I didn't get it, so. I do feel bad about not getting it until now.
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[personal profile] obstinatecondolement 2019-04-21 09:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I haven't seen it yet, but I've been spoiled elsewhere and I don't know if I'll ever watch the show again.
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[personal profile] kitewithfish 2019-04-22 02:11 pm (UTC)(link)
SIGH.

I am actually really torn, because I think, honestly, that they could have done *some* of what they wanted to do with Quentin, and actually accomplished the goal they wanted to accomplish, with just a *little* more thought, and if they had taken more space to actually do it properly. Like, the bones of a good and thoughtful story are there?

But they did not do the thing they wanted to do, and they did not hit the points they needed to hit in order for this to work right and it would have been better if they had started this leg of the plot an episode back at least.

That said, I think its worth watching, if it's not going to be harmful to you, but I can't make that call and I'm hardly going to push.
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