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  <title>Relationship to Canon: Shot out of one!</title>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;So, over on Pillowfort, &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.pillowfort.io/SakuraNoMiko&quot;&gt;SakuraNoMiko&lt;/a&gt; had a &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.pillowfort.io/posts/461277&quot;&gt;great post about reading fic without being involved in the canon&lt;/a&gt; that I responded to, and I&apos;m posting my response over here because I really enjoyed the process of thinking about it and would love more of people&apos;s thoughts!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;_______&lt;br /&gt;Quick note: I have no idea how to format html beyond the basics, so there are parts of this that are formatting in keeping with the post on Pillowfort and I am leaving them for now. Let me know if it&apos;s showing up wonky for you!&lt;br /&gt;______&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;SakuraNoMiko wrote:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style=&quot;box-sizing: border-box; padding-top: 10px; padding-right: 20px; padding-bottom: 10px; margin: 0px 0px 20px; font-size: 14px; background-color: rgb(214, 214, 214); font-family: &amp;quot;Source Sans Pro&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Sans Serif&amp;quot;; padding-left: 15px !important; border: none !important; color: rgb(34, 34, 34) !important;&quot;&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px;&quot;&gt;That said--has anyone gotten really into a fic without knowing the canon? Read fic before seeing the actual show? I&apos;m curious if it influenced your opinion of the show when you finally saw it.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px 0px 10px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: &amp;quot;Source Sans Pro&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Sans Serif&amp;quot;; font-size: 14px;&quot;&gt;I have actually read a lot of fic without knowing the canon!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px 0px 10px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: &amp;quot;Source Sans Pro&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Sans Serif&amp;quot;; font-size: 14px;&quot;&gt;So, I can actually date nearly precisely when I decided that, not only could I read fic beyond the part of the canon I already knew, I could read fic with no intention of ever learning the canon! I lay the credit on this post &amp;nbsp;from 2006. -&lt;a href=&quot;https://thefourthvine.livejournal.com/63288.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; style=&quot;box-sizing: border-box; background-color: transparent; color: rgb(42, 152, 188); text-decoration-line: none;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;https://thefourthvine.livejournal.com/63288.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px 0px 10px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: &amp;quot;Source Sans Pro&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Sans Serif&amp;quot;; font-size: 14px;&quot;&gt;Allow me to steal a quote from that post by theFourthVine:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote style=&quot;box-sizing: border-box; padding-top: 10px; padding-right: 20px; padding-bottom: 10px; margin: 0px 0px 20px; font-size: 14px; background-color: rgb(214, 214, 214); font-family: &amp;quot;Source Sans Pro&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Sans Serif&amp;quot;; padding-left: 15px !important; border: none !important; color: rgb(34, 34, 34) !important;&quot;&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px;&quot;&gt;&lt;em style=&quot;box-sizing: border-box;&quot;&gt;&amp;quot;[Me and TV] is never going to be a pairing of legend, unless the legend involves a lot of headaches, stupid questions, avoidance, and humiliating misunderstandings.&lt;br style=&quot;box-sizing: border-box;&quot; /&gt;&lt;br style=&quot;box-sizing: border-box;&quot; /&gt;But I was learning that most major fandoms were TV shows. I felt - well, hampered. But in November 2003, I clicked on Out of Whack. Some careful reading later, I learned a great truth: fan fiction can be canon-optional. Later, I learned that I am actually much more likely to enjoy reading the fan fiction if I don&apos;t know the canon when I start, and TV fandoms became my happy home.&lt;/em&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px 0px 10px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: &amp;quot;Source Sans Pro&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Sans Serif&amp;quot;; font-size: 14px;&quot;&gt;See, this seems really obvious to me now, but the reality of the situation was, I really&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong style=&quot;box-sizing: border-box;&quot;&gt;did&lt;/strong&gt;&amp;nbsp;need someone to give me permission to treat fandom as a worthy effort in and of itself, without having to have a relationship with the canon beforehand.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px 0px 10px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: &amp;quot;Source Sans Pro&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Sans Serif&amp;quot;; font-size: 14px;&quot;&gt;Which I was really happy to find out! Because I had a lot of fic writers that I&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong style=&quot;box-sizing: border-box;&quot;&gt;loved&lt;/strong&gt;&amp;nbsp;who were writing in fandoms that I didn&apos;t have access to because they were TV series from before the era of automatic DVD releases - The Sentinel, Due South, etc. And while I&apos;ve seen a few episodes each from each of these shows, and I can see some of the appeal of the original canon, it&apos;s just been so long and I&apos;m so divorced from the standards of normal at the time, that I&apos;m fine with just giving up on the canon and enjoying the fic for what it is.&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Arial, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;SakuraNoMiko wrote:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote style=&quot;box-sizing: border-box; padding-top: 10px; padding-right: 20px; padding-bottom: 10px; margin: 0px 0px 20px; font-size: 14px; background-color: rgb(214, 214, 214); font-family: &amp;quot;Source Sans Pro&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Sans Serif&amp;quot;; padding-left: 15px !important; border: none !important; color: rgb(34, 34, 34) !important;&quot;&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px;&quot;&gt;A possibly secondary question: of course, fanfiction wouldn&apos;t exist without some sort of canon source, but do you think it&apos;s necessary to know the canon to fully enjoy a fic? Like, do you think a fic should be able to stand on it&apos;s own, or is that kind of &amp;nbsp;stupid idea, given that fic is made to be alongside canon? What about AUs that have very little to do with canon? Fics where people are acting out-of-character?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px 0px 10px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: &amp;quot;Source Sans Pro&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Sans Serif&amp;quot;; font-size: 14px;&quot;&gt;Somewhat obviously, I&apos;m going to land on &amp;quot;Nope, you don&apos;t need the canon to love the fandom!&amp;quot; Good writing is worth it, even if you are going to miss some of the context or you have to check in with a fandom primer to get. Good writing is an experience worth having, even if you end up not knowing the exact lines between canon and fanon. &amp;nbsp;And like you mentioned, you can pick up a lot of canon just from being in the community.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px 0px 10px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: &amp;quot;Source Sans Pro&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Sans Serif&amp;quot;; font-size: 14px;&quot;&gt;In some ways, reading without canon does mean that you are more vulnerable to getting confused about the facts of the canon - like you mentioned in watching Supernatural, you&apos;d picked up that demons were really common, well before that became true in canon. &amp;nbsp;I&apos;ve definitely picked up some elements of Transformers fic and assumed it was canon, only to read stuff that made it clear, whoops, that&apos;s just one author&apos;s headcanon! Or a common fanon that not everyone agrees with!&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px 0px 10px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: &amp;quot;Source Sans Pro&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Sans Serif&amp;quot;; font-size: 14px;&quot;&gt;One tactic I have used for getting familiarity with fandoms I know I am never going to connect with canon - I read a lot of meta! Episode summaries, or primers, or Youtube videos talking about the show - they are all usually very explicit about what&apos;s canon, and you can pick up the main facts about things. On tumblr, meta posts took a lot of that role!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px 0px 10px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: &amp;quot;Source Sans Pro&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Sans Serif&amp;quot;; font-size: 14px;&quot;&gt;To be fair, when I think about the fandoms I read in without knowing the canon fully, I usually have a barrier to the canon that prevents me from engaging with it. For&amp;nbsp;&lt;em style=&quot;box-sizing: border-box;&quot;&gt;The Eagle&amp;nbsp;&lt;/em&gt;fandom, I have seen the film, but I can&apos;t get my hands on the original books by Rosemary Sutcliffe, so I rely on fandom to flesh out the details from the books. For&amp;nbsp;&lt;em style=&quot;box-sizing: border-box;&quot;&gt;DueSouth, The Sentinel,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/em&gt;&amp;nbsp;and&amp;nbsp;&lt;em style=&quot;box-sizing: border-box;&quot;&gt;X-Files,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/em&gt;those are all TV shows that are pretty time intensive, and for a while they were difficult to get access to (unless you invested in your own copies of the DVD&apos;s) - since the time and money involved were a high barrier, I formed an attachment that was mostly free of canon.&amp;nbsp;&lt;em style=&quot;box-sizing: border-box;&quot;&gt;Transformers&lt;/em&gt;&amp;nbsp;and some other continuing comics series - I like comics but I find continuing series hard to follow outside of collections, and often difficult to find without buying for myself.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px 0px 10px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: &amp;quot;Source Sans Pro&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Sans Serif&amp;quot;; font-size: 14px;&quot;&gt;And then there are the fandoms where I was engaged with the canon, and then, welp, to quote Nick Fury:&amp;nbsp;&lt;em style=&quot;box-sizing: border-box;&quot;&gt;I recognize the council has made a decision, but given that it&amp;rsquo;s a stupid-ass decision, I&amp;rsquo;ve elected to ignore it. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/em&gt;Some fandoms, I will read the fic, and I will love them from afar, but&lt;strong style=&quot;box-sizing: border-box;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;strong style=&quot;box-sizing: border-box;&quot;&gt;holy shit&lt;em style=&quot;box-sizing: border-box;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;I am not doing that to myself again&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;strong style=&quot;box-sizing: border-box;&quot;&gt;&lt;em style=&quot;box-sizing: border-box;&quot;&gt;.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&amp;nbsp;So, Once Upon A Time, &amp;nbsp;I&apos;ll read some of the fic about the characters I love, but I am never ever going to watch another episode.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;https://www.dreamwidth.org/tools/commentcount?user=kitewithfish&amp;ditemid=403474&quot; width=&quot;30&quot; height=&quot;12&quot; alt=&quot;comment count unavailable&quot; style=&quot;vertical-align: middle;&quot;/&gt; comments</description>
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